((HT: 11Alive.com))
Surprising no one, really, the suburban county that is getting the Atlanta Braves and their new ballpark may have slipped paperwork onto their website for only a day's review before the meeting Tuesday night.
And stacked the deck on speakers before putting their ideas to a vote that was going to pass anyway...
And had people tossed from the meeting who wanted to speak, weren't allowed to, and then raised their voices in protest...
It looks like an additional $31-million was added onto the county's responsibilities. If the Braves and the county don't meet their expectations with incoming revenue and revenue streams, then county taxpayers are on the hook for the balance...
Here's team coverage with the Hull Man and Melissa...
Construction starts in late 2014 and the team is set to move into its news digs in 2017
Showing posts with label New Braves Stadium. Show all posts
Showing posts with label New Braves Stadium. Show all posts
Tuesday, May 27, 2014
Thursday, November 14, 2013
Braves To The Burbs: Now, We Think We Know The Numbers...Until They Change...
The new Braves project is supposed to cost $672-million, the Braves would foot $372-million of that...
So, it's a 55-45 split...
The lease is set for 30 years with an option for 5 more- that would take things through the 2051 season
From Cobb County's perspective, $14 million would be for transit improvements, $10 million would come from the Cumberland Community Improvement District and $276 million from the Cobb-Marietta Coliseum and Exhibition Hall Authority.
It's the Braves barn to use as they see fit, and they can let folks use it if they give permission...
Here's the breakdown of the agreement between Cobb County and the Braves...
There will be taxes that will be added or restructured to make this go down right (if you're Cobb) in hotels, rental cars (which is interesting since there is no transportation hub to do it, unless you call a "mall" a transportation hub), and business property rates.
But this also may introduce some kind of rail system to alleviate traffic that is already there and will only increase once the project undergoes construction...something the county has steadfastly voted against in the past...
Reps from the Braves met with Georgia Governor Nathan Deal and Atlanta mayor Kasim Reed on the move...
Deal is just calling himself an "interested observer..." and will not earmark or allocate any kind of dollars toward the new stadium...
Here's his recap of the meeting...
((HT: WSB-TV))
So, it's a 55-45 split...
The lease is set for 30 years with an option for 5 more- that would take things through the 2051 season
From Cobb County's perspective, $14 million would be for transit improvements, $10 million would come from the Cumberland Community Improvement District and $276 million from the Cobb-Marietta Coliseum and Exhibition Hall Authority.
It's the Braves barn to use as they see fit, and they can let folks use it if they give permission...
Here's the breakdown of the agreement between Cobb County and the Braves...
There will be taxes that will be added or restructured to make this go down right (if you're Cobb) in hotels, rental cars (which is interesting since there is no transportation hub to do it, unless you call a "mall" a transportation hub), and business property rates.
But this also may introduce some kind of rail system to alleviate traffic that is already there and will only increase once the project undergoes construction...something the county has steadfastly voted against in the past...
Reps from the Braves met with Georgia Governor Nathan Deal and Atlanta mayor Kasim Reed on the move...
Deal is just calling himself an "interested observer..." and will not earmark or allocate any kind of dollars toward the new stadium...
Here's his recap of the meeting...
((HT: WSB-TV))
Monday, November 11, 2013
CONTINUING: Braves To The Burbs, Where's The Money Coming From...??? Misplaced Priorities...???
((HT: WSB-TV))
A few points of thought...
The HQ would like to know where the money is EXACTLY coming from for the new Suburban Palace...
Since...
A) Cobb County, Brother Phil's abode of choice, has been laying off essential personnel like teachers and hasn't given them raises in the last decade. Schools have had to lay off teachers in situations of tenure (or a lack thereof)...
One high school in particular as an example- Allatoona High School (a new school in the county)- had to lay off coaches in their football program in 2010- and had to wait months for a budget reorganization to reinstate the coaches that were lacking in tenure after the fiscal year started.
So, the longer version of that same story...
New school has no teachers with tenure...
Therefore, they're the first ones laid off by the letter of the law...
New school is, then, rendered temporarily useless by the expansion of the county and the budget shortfalls created by the government that created the school in the first place...
This is the county government in charge of the new Braves facility...
And, B) The idea that the county contribution to the new Braves facility is a tax, but isn't really a tax in name only...
But won't be voted on before any kind of open forum will be vetted...
Make sense...???
Here's continuing coverage of the fallout even as the Mayor of Atlanta, Kasim Reed has both thrown in the towel and not given up...
The larger question is... since Reed threw all his chips in over the Falcons deal, how does he plan on keeping both...???
A few points of thought...
The HQ would like to know where the money is EXACTLY coming from for the new Suburban Palace...
Since...
A) Cobb County, Brother Phil's abode of choice, has been laying off essential personnel like teachers and hasn't given them raises in the last decade. Schools have had to lay off teachers in situations of tenure (or a lack thereof)...
One high school in particular as an example- Allatoona High School (a new school in the county)- had to lay off coaches in their football program in 2010- and had to wait months for a budget reorganization to reinstate the coaches that were lacking in tenure after the fiscal year started.
So, the longer version of that same story...
New school has no teachers with tenure...
Therefore, they're the first ones laid off by the letter of the law...
New school is, then, rendered temporarily useless by the expansion of the county and the budget shortfalls created by the government that created the school in the first place...
This is the county government in charge of the new Braves facility...
And, B) The idea that the county contribution to the new Braves facility is a tax, but isn't really a tax in name only...
But won't be voted on before any kind of open forum will be vetted...
Make sense...???
Here's continuing coverage of the fallout even as the Mayor of Atlanta, Kasim Reed has both thrown in the towel and not given up...
The larger question is... since Reed threw all his chips in over the Falcons deal, how does he plan on keeping both...???
OSG Opinion: The Real Reason the Atlanta Braves are Moving
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| Turner Field/Courtesy: Me |
For those of you who don't know: (a) I have a real job. Blogging doesn't pay the bills, Brother Jon, Brother Wilkie and I do this when we have time. (b) Yes, I live in Cobb County, roughly about 10 minutes (or 4 miles to be exact) away from where the new stadium is to be built. and © I work across the street. Or nearly. My offices are less than 1/4 mile away from where all this will take place.
Just felt like sharing.
Anyway.
There's already been an incredulous outrage. "How can they do this?" "Why leave a perfectly good Turner Field? It's less than 20-years old?" "Who's paying for it?" "Why are they being so greedy?"
All questions we have answers to:
First off, they (the Braves) can do whatever they want. Their lease on Turner Field ends after the 2016 season. No, they don't own the stadium. Never have. The city of Atlanta built it for the Olympics in 1996, then renovated it for the Braves to play in '97. The team pays rent and is responsible for any work done on the place. They'd don't get to share much of the profit.Two. Turner Field. Sure, it's a nice stadium. It's got good seats and sight lines. They've worked to get some very good restaurants to open stands in the building. It's pretty easy to navigate and on the surface, is in pretty good shape.
But it's in a crappy neighborhood. It's hard to get to. It has limited parking. It has panhandlers and shady characters trying to convince you to park in their homemade lots.
And most importantly, there are NO businesses around the stadium.
Third. We're all paying for it to an extent.
Yeah, sure, the Braves are chipping in $200 million, but it's roughly 1/3 of the cost. And don't think that won't be rolled into your ticket prices for a minute. And as I said in the beginning, I'm paying for it. My wife and I are honest to goodness Cobb County taxpayers, which means it's coming out of my pocket.
And unlike a lot of others, I'm okay with that.
Fourth and most importantly, the Braves are not fooling anyone. Well, that's not totally true. They aren't fooling those of us in the know.This is about revenue. Plain and simple.
The Braves need to be creative to raise revenue's. Unlike most MLB teams, they don't have the Billion dollar TV contract the Dodgers do. Never will. They are stuck with a crappy deal with Fox Sports South they can't get out of.
The team has a limited payroll from it's corporate owner (Liberty Media) for that very reason. It's also why they've almost always been good, not great. They can't compete for major stars.
No, don't kid yourself. The stadium is important to this deal, they'll get most of the revenue from that and the parking. But the big reason for doing this is the development around it. It appears they will have the property rights for the surrounding development. And the team has made it abundantly clear, they have plans to develop it. Quickly.
Ground is scheduled to be broken in mid-2014, the stadium should be ready in 2017.
Oddly enough, that will be mere months ahead of the Atlanta Falcons who are getting their new stadium (paid 2/3 by the team) later that year.
Just because we enjoyed this song:
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